I wouldn't ever use their site just on principle. Also, the problem comes from the sellers, not the site designers, for a large part. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Currently on a tight budget, would lose a substantial cut to pay for software licenses and hardware. And to be fair, you will never get exact 40% from squid either, because they have payout fees too and also they withold certain amount from US purchases. Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. We previously sent you final warnings about your non-compliance with our Best Prices policy. 3dsky.org2. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. In other words as an artist in TS you are not so well protected, as it's here at CGT. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. 3D Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model ma, ma, obj, and fbx TurboSquid : , , 3D . That's what I'm saying all the time and what I didn't like because I was not selling models for 3d printing and reason why I left. Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. When I asked why they don' want pay for that they have suspended my products ( 428) products they did not say anything after. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. CGTrader vs Turbosquid | CGTrader Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. My friend didn't get any support. In regards to product awareness and marketing it is also nice to have some special user cases to show off, there is no room to collect user case data in the Ts model. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. I left all but . I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Downloading 3D Models from any website - YouTube for someone that is a little more unique. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. Advertising? Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. So what's needed? Reputation for promptly fixing problems? Cubebrush. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. However, the use is allowed if the MMO is a closed MMO, like World of Warcraft. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. (I'm aware this involves many aspects) Such an arrogant attitude. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. Prices do not include additional fees, such as shipping . (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Click here to submit yours . Old thread but still relevant, do yourself a favour and cut back on the seafood, delete TS bookmarks and make progress here. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. I agree to what captainmarlowe is telling. Let's give some time to time. People are followers they have always been and always will be. NoneCG will be up for it. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. It is all about customer reputation and perception. If CGtrader's advertisement budget is a problem, a Crowdfunding round may help. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. CG Trader. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. This is my principle decision . I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. TurboSquid is garbage. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. What I read on different forums seems obvious, exclusivity no longer pays. Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. Chat with Support 24/7 "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". If you have any questions about these. I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc This is why: Logout from your account and go to CGTrader home page. I do agree with you regarding the search engine. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! Agree with every word. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. In other countries like China film production is far better funded so perhaps CGTrader could try opening it's doors to Hong Kong film studios etc Japan is also far better funded and in fact Turbosquid is also selling models on the Japanese market. We can help here by simple putting the links to our work on our social media. I'm done with them. I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Due to its royalty politic and complex registration process, I've finally stopped selling 3D models on TS. Has anyone tried selling 3D models on CGTrader? - Quora I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! I remember that too! The site owners could also act on other various levels : No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. The Ts model does not support such thing and is not up to the task of modern time needs for this industry. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. Also you need to think about the advantage of not having to worry about shipping costs etc with digital art. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. To me this was a sign that people know about CGt and that users have at least two accounts. i think cgtrader can grow stronger with higher quality traffic. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. In my country you have to be adult to do bussines and legal stuff. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] (just playing with ideas here) This is the Tesla Model 3. On other hand I could also think its just some clients that do not care about the price difference, they just prefer using the Ts account. Then I contacted Eduardas and Mantas who refused to remove the rating, CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". I think the TS percentage is pretty much an outrage considering the low price of the products being sold. --GENERAL--. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. That's just an easy question to answer 1. Chat with Support 24/7 I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. Often offer to buy the models in 1020 times more expensive than the price at which the model was exhibited for sale. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. Agree with every word above. Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. taken offline. stores with its own labels for 3D printing, 3D stock, crowdfunding, game models maybe even concept designs, sound files, storytellers, code for making apps, 3D scripts, etc) Each of this stores would then again have subcategories (e.g. I like how there is no join up fee. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". From point of buyer who wants to buy a classic 3D model (cg) there is no way I will start searching on cgtrader. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. https://www.fiverr.com/pixel512/create-a-3d-model-shipping-container For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. But i think CGT nows that pretty well, that's why they decided to bring changes in royalty policy and hopefully they will steer additional cash flow towards making this stock market more attractive to the buyers. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. Delhi Escort I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. Also the management is awkward on TS. For example, I ran into this this morning. They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. That takes longer time. Fantasy is a bit better, but sic-fi gets me 10 copyright infringements on the first page alone (star wars characters, mainly). Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). Female 3D models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? What makes Cg-trader better than Turbosquid? | CGTrader There is plenty of "undercutters" everywhere and some short-sighted content developers that seem to only care about quick cash-grabs and most of the time doesn't even have enough data to state a valid opinion based on the contrast of facts over medium-long periods of time. On TS buyer cant do such thing, he needs to contact support on TS. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! A client would normally ALWAYS choose a cheaper price, that's a law of nature. I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. That is very strong argument in favor of CGT, but then again, don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all? Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. Basically just like Turbosquid has done they have become the one stop shop for everything. Chat with Support 24/7 The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. High hopes for Cgtrader. Of those limited people just a hand full would actually buy models or put money towards models so if TS already has won those people we need to find our own nitch or we go out of business. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. Guys really have the potential to screw greedy monopoly and earn some decent position on the market. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. Escorts jaipur I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. So that is why sites like Amazon are making a fortune. Site issues? Hopefully we can find a way that would plrase all sides. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. I'm glad CGtrader and its community of supporters is able to make this situation come to an end. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. ! Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. In that case on CGTrader buyer can contact seller directly and ask him/her to fix the issue. We initially did the 3D printing focused homepage after noticing that CG customers skip the homepage and come directly to product page, mostly knowing exactly what they need for their projects, while 3D printing customers need more direction and inspiration, so that even non-professionals can discover this new industry. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. [google7|http://www.google.com] [http://www.google.com|google11] Unlike Turbosquid which has remained practically the same since it was created and that actually has become dodgier over time as they have been adding more and more hoops for artists to jump through just to upload a basic model CGT has been great about constantly listening to it's artists needs and made great improvements! https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. While this tactic worked very well at first and allowed to draw that many sellers in relatively short period of time, now it's time to think about buyers, as without them sellers will start to starve. In response to your comments kanga, I would like to add this to the conversation. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. So click on a category. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. [a=http://www.google.com] google6[/a] We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? Yep.. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model 3D - TurboSquid 2034950 Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. Payment Method You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. - Moderating some pointless threads opened by people using CGtrader as an advertising platform for their own website without even selling a single object here Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. Free 3D Models - Download Free 3D Models 3DExport (I forgot to put TS up). Imagine how much resorces and efforts are used by those clowns for this greedy Best price quality nonsense. That thing is just getting started ;-). So it was sorted in your favor afterall? So, CGT is the best guys ! Ah crap, not sure how that referal spam sneaked into turbosquid link, here is the clean one: https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856, I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. In one case, the model is promising, commercial, and then set a high price. [quote]2. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. We've been on TS over 20 years and on CG trader since their start. Hello, Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. Adult Female Jessy Rigged 3D Model 9. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. Thanks again guys, and let us know if you have any further comments or questions. There are currently no models in your cart. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. I want to say the following. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. More specifically, the 3D Model may not be exported or sold. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. They do not deserve that I fed them 60% Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. Nice try. See ourPrivacy Policyfor more information. TS management is by far the worst in history, they are great at Hostile take overs, yet bad at dealing with the realities of industry, i stopped all my affiliate links with TS and right now i'm sharing only the links for my products on CGT and Art station. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. Maybe I live in an unrealistic parallel reality, where at least some people still have some dignity and know how and when to differentiate good vs evil and take a public stand with actions instead of just words. So let's hope that at some point, the designers of the site will establish some filters to guarantee a minimal quality and, why not, a "good practice charter" for the sellers, or that they will explain some sellers that their attitude is not good in the long term for the site credibility. It also seems to me like CG trader is looking out a lot more for the artists. Yes you are right Zet! Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. I am huge fan of the CGT team because they really try hard to make us happy. Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable.