This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. However, any link that requires any form of downloads, account creation or spammy activity, to view linked content, will not be permitted. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. Some of them are human, including several skulls and a young girls intact corpse, in the bottom right, with a large hole in the head. Hi Rune (and Stian), great points. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Hi Lisa, I wrote an in-depth analysis of Kriss bones here: The government officials involved failed at providing a thorough analysis/evaluation. The identity of the person who took the images remains a mystery. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your interest in the case. Theyve been promised much if they deliver Feliciano hard evidence of the girls death. One thing is for sure, I will never travel to Panama. Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. Youtube channel backpackercoach or backpackingcoach i think, has a video called is it a cave? where he shows a section of trail that looks much like that. Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. 1. In this photo is another object (or two? Theres not a lot of information about the gangs in the Boquete area. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lMUOsoUME0Q/YLJzTuPRWbI/AAAAAAAAHDc/431BbuGq2PQEgxV65djGrwcBUCL5BEh8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s486/closeupkrs.jpg. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. Who said there werent any scratches on the bones? Too many coincidences. Police cant be that stupid, but they hope that we are that stupid. She would probably have gone into what looks like a cave or hut behind her, which may have been a booby trap leading to a long drop either through the floor or at the back of the cave. The families are now working on having the womens' remains brought back to the U.S., he said. If you track the photos she takes her hair down around when she reached the top of the mountain and there are photos taken shortly after this showing her to be fine, in good spirits even. The last photo of Kris on the rocks doesnt appear to have any evidentiary value to me. One indication is that I cannot see the shoulder strap of her top that is obscured by her white/fair forearm. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. Beyond that, the police are even suspect in altering evidence and not preserving it. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. So, these were all indigenous locals influenced by another villager that had traveled abroad. In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. We simply dont have enough information at this time. If someone had access to their phones, they might have deleted them. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. Hope there will be a reasonable explanation to everything one day. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death.Jim. The picture people think she is looking down she is hanging with hands tied behind her back. Theres a lot of information in the photos but people are willfully blind to it for some reason. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? Im not sure if Ive found something new here, but I havent found anyone else discussing these details online. The mans face is clearly visible standing behind the rock with the red bags. Even a subtle untimely laugh behind a mans back in Latin America can create a hostile situation if the women were alone later. Lisanne's bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally - but Kris' bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in her death. This case is certainly not finished. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. It looks as if there is a guy standing off the edge in the tunnel. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? Thank you for your comment. Yo veo en el fondo de la foto 506, adjunto al muslo, la pierna y el pie izquierdo de Kris, una silueta de un hombre joven, con sombrero de copa alta y ala ancha (al estilo de los sheriff norteamericanos), con una manta blanca sobre sus hombros,tronco y brazos y un rifle o escopeta en posicin horizontal sobre sus manos. Subsequent analysis revealed that on April 4, Froons phone battery became exhausted, but between April 5 and April 11, Kremers iPhone was turned on multiple times but whoever turned it on didnt enter the PIN code correctly. Hi Chris, good question. This story and all the bizarre features surrounding it as strange as they are, are actually very much similar to the thousands that have been put together by former cop and forest ranger David Pauladis series of books Missing 411. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. For other inquiries, Contact Us. Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. Two years later, a 23 year old American woman is strangled to death while walking the trails. The supporting pole is diagonal from upper right to lower middle indicating the path is beginning to head down. scary From my own gutt feeling I see only a very preventable accident. Sometimes that is all that is found. Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. I look forward to learning more and you do valuable humane work helping other young adventurers. This may explain why the taxi driver and the two young men died so soon after this incident. More than 100 pictureswere on the camera; the first few looked like normal tourist photos with the womensmiling together. And that looks to be a stocker style stand. What we do know is for 5 days after they disappeared, her phone was checked about a dozen times. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. At that time, she had her phone. Could fishing line be being used to secure all this making it hard to see, & could that blue object on the ground be part of the roof device- step on it & it triggers it or something like that? Hi Tom, I believe you intended to comment above, on @SwordOfGods comment. Im impressed how you were able to see the other things in the photo. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. My husband is a mountain climber and when hes out, the mountain rescue flys multiple times a day because hikers overestimate their abilities in the german Alps, not anywhere in the jungle. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Thats perplexing to me. And more on this most people in Latin America that permit their dog to walk freely do not keep track of where their dog goes. The land behind her is definitely at a higher level and could be rock. If one or both of the phones were missing, it would have generated more questions. In which photos? actually name names. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Should have read this before I commented lol. Do u know if this particular spot was apart of the trail they went on? Her hands are *not* tied behind her back. They probably came off the summit the wrong way. Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. "The Sun", "Sun", "Sun Online" are registered trademarks or trade names of News Group Newspapers Limited. Why? I dont appreciate the internet trolls who dump havoc on peoples insights. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. And we also have more than 500 sets of human remains believed to be archived across the . On April 1, 2014, two students from the Netherlands namedLisanneFroon and Kris Kremers went on a hike in Panama with a dog. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. Hey Im not sure if someone already pointed it out but does everyone see the orange drawing on the bottom right? The relationship between pets and owners is different in Central America than in developed countries. Fact. Is it possible that there is a building or some sort of structure behind the vegetation? . Theres a lot more information needed to make conclusions. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. Its very interesting that the dog is not clearly visible in any of the pictures. Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. Problem with that is that you would think they would simply turn round once they realised. Its at the very top of the post. Its interesting to hear that you are considering putting together a research team to visit Panama and further investigate the details of the case interviews, videos, mapping terrain, etc. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. The blue thing on the ground looks like a blue tarp and that looks like a corner sticking out. Why would that be? After this, the photos were from April 8, 2014and likely snappedbetween 1 amand 4 am. Thank you for your consideration. Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. Also, people do not give off a rosy glow from their backs, as can be seen here. One question sticking to the government interference and coverup, with the deletion of a photo (nr, 531?) Perhaps Kris fell first and Lisanne heard her scream and running in fell herself. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. I think they were murdered and their greatest mistake was to travel to this little town in Panama. Obviously she did the first several times, but as the battery got lower, she likely got more conscious of the idea of conserving it. But I see him in none of L&Ks photos. The pictures taken were used to place Kris in pictures on the Mirador with Lisanne. Might look harmless and untouched which is why she is standing so close but then she is either caught or trapped in a booby trap lol. The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. I do not think this case fits the criteria of missing 411. I wonder why the girls didnt do any text messages even if they never got through? Probably the culprit or stupid tribe didnt delete anything coz they took pictures on purpose .for example to sell the footage .but allready the police or parents who asked the investigator to delete it .they just simply didnt want to show it to everyone. These are all similar in so many of the cases in his Missing 411 series. She turns to talk Lisanna People usually have dogs for a mild form of protection. In a mind-blowing theory, Dick Steffens, a former detective in Amsterdam, claimed Kris could still be alive after she was trafficked into the sex trade by a kidnapper roaming in the jungle. I dont understand the question. The attacker could have taken the photos to confuse the authorities and the public. These were of seemingly random objects, like a stick with plastic sticking to it, as well as scenes of foliage, canyons, anda bridge. Hi Chris, i uploaded the photo to show what i see. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. He wasnt walking with them. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. The timing of the photos is incorrect, the resolution of the photos was altered to remove detail (which is why the public only has poor quality photos) and sometimes the photos were different sizes/dimensions. Does anyone see what I see? The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. You can even see clear rods in the red areas towards the top going straight through. We are dealing with history here. I get why people really hard want to believe theres something more to it, but hiking a lot (in very well known areas) you can go lost SO easily. It was taken on the Continental Divide exactly 14 minutes and 12 seconds after their photos at the Mirador. The night picture she is standing in same spot and someone is doing something to her lower leg or foot ,you can see them under her. Clearly the trash on the rocks indicates it had active people. These were standard vacation photos that two young women would take while traveling. What is peculiar is that there were no attempts to contact anyone other than the emergency services. I like the wit and sarcasm. Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. They obviously protect the predator(s). It took us quite some time to get there, the authors explain to The Daily Beast. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. Im curious about your experience living abroad. What you are seeing is simply from the pattern of the foliage and shadows and light patterns impacting on the image. Its not a very long trail and I think when they got to the end of the trail they made their really big mistake. Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. How long have Keir Starmer and Sue Gray been secretly cooking up their plot? They keep trying to call emergency. I am not an investigator but I find it very strange that there were no witnesses found either tourists or locals on the trail. They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. So, their work was good but not perfect. The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. One obvious question - has anybody ever found the place that is in this photograph. Missing Lynn Haven juveniles. Basically akin to that in the movie the predator. Hi Chris, I agree that discussion should be civil but this comment section has turned into something which I consider to be absolutely ridiculous. The dog found his way home. Photoshopping is not hard to do nor is it very tactical as many have proposed here. In the days following the students' disappearances, authorities conducted footand aerial searches. Do mobile phones store the number entered? I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash. I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. Nothing. Thanks, John. Where is YNW Melly? Ive kept comments on this article open for civil and respectful discussion. Watch Lost in the Wild Season 1 Episode 1. Emergency. Totally agree. Other than the dog, the young women went on their hike alone, only asking for directions from a local innkeeper, who advised them to take a taxi back to town. Both were never seen again, The Sun reports. If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. Happy reading! Hi Anna, yes, Im aware of that and thank you for shedding light on that for other readers. perhaps there is much that was missed by a very bungled police investigation. I become very confused and not starting from Go and not knowing what is fact and what is anecdotal I just do not know. And hen you have body parts belonging to other persons also found with these girls. Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. Their families went to the police to. I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. Like the taxidriver and the two local boys. Websites/blogs speculate about why, but nothing has been confirmed. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls' deaths were an accident. Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. I wrote about the upcoming book here: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/new-book-coming-spring-2021-kris-kremers-and-lisanne-froon-case/. These photos dont have a lot of helpful information and the camera was tampered with. When the Canon Powershot was recovered by Dutch authorites, there was a conspicuous missing file: IMG_0509. Or if someone deleted them? Required fields are marked *, I just gave the brief overall story of what I think happened. 1. He ledo toda la compilacin y visto la mayora de videos. Just trying to get as many ideas together as possible, so that some clue may surface one day. Someone called her so she turning to look at them. Probably something like peanut butter, which is a typical energy-dense low cost food carried by people who are traveling light. For the next four days they travel. And she can only hope that Kris will wake up. There are . In the picture of her in the Cave? But without DNA samples, finger prints, etc, its hard to prove anything. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. Minha Querida menina. But the call logs gave the cops a rough outline of the time the girls spent missing in the jungle. The causes of Kremerss and Froons tragic death have never been determined and the two bodies that were recovered have not even been conclusively found to be either of the girls. It may be a plant, but it appears to have a definitive shape and its oddly located that the very center of the path with no other visible red things in the trees. If I remember correctly half of a pelvic bone was found that belong to the other girl so I think we should give the other girl some thought. Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. & very very eerie all in all- I think youre absolutely right on its significance. Theres a circular object hanging to the left of Kris. Heres more info: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/research-team-update-join-us/. Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. The night time photos are not relevant but the result of someone playing with the camera. Perhaps the girls were lured there and that is where they met their horrible fate. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. Well-worn paths do not lead into a pit. For pareidiologists, in the Cave photo on the right just over halfway from Kris head to the edge of the photo there is an arm and hand tied to a tree, and to the right of Kris leg is the sole of a walking boot with a light stripe down the middle. Perhaps this stranger had suggested he could guide them on a more interesting trail, or show them something interesting in the jungle. Their bodies were located after more than 690 hours of searching. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. Does anyone know if the dog they brought with them is in any photos from the hike? I think this has been added to hide the fact that Kris was not wearing boots, as this was a shot of her from somewhere else and superimposed on the jungle scene. One showed Kremers with what looked like concern on her face,dated around the time of the emergency calls. I do get very creepy and bad vibes from this photo though. Image 505 is actually the last image before the night photos. The ambulatory friend began to assess how she might reach her friend, but underestimated the difficulty involved, thereby becoming less able to extricate herself from the jungle. Your email address will not be published. Then consider Kris and Lisannes parents when they trekked with a group along the trail, across two streams, until they reached a field with the disintegrating fence posts and the tall lone tree some hundred meters away. Yes the dog was owned by Giovanni and Doris, the owners of Il Pianista Restaurant. It most certainly is not a joke. They should be alive and flourishing today. Has anyone gone back to the spot where the photo was taken? The backpack being found with all its contents including money and not even dirty let alone wet after weeks of constant rain-found a day after the area was checked. This is an excellent analysis. The branches above her could be an attempt to hide the entrance. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Why? And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). The stats leave 42 cases currently open since 2007. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. Im not saying that I dont think foul play was involved. I would expect especially on the first day for total panic to occur and multiple attempts to be made until a decision was made to save battery strength. The dog ran away and they followed it into the woods to try to get it back? Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. Also why make them at night and not during the day? However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . Cops quizzed locals, tour guides and other hikers, but only the photos and call logs provided a slither of evidence as to what had happened. The Canon Powershot SX270 HS, has two methods of numbering images. Zooming in I swear its a person standing Hidden amongst the tangle with body paint.