I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. With .40 grains of Black Powder I get about 400 ft-lbs of Energy. New in Box-never fired. FINISH SHOWS LIGHT FADING WITH LIGHT HIGH-EDGE WEAR. A friend of mine purchased a 1874 Sharps repo made by them a few years. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This was sold and moved to Marietta, OH., and then, in around 1973, was sold to Navy Arms. The front sight was okay, except that it was frequently made of brass, wich when polished by the inside of a holster, tended to reflect glare into the shooters eyes, but the rear sight was a crude notch, filed roughly into the tip of the hammer! Both can be fixed just like Colt fixed them in the day. But always remember that the original buffal0 rifles were all black powder cartridges. SOLD BORE IS FAIR. REcoil is essentially nonexistent. View Item in Catalog Lot #242 (Sale Order: 241 of 708) Sold for: $120.00 to F****b "Tax, Shipping & Handling and Internet Premium Chiappa (I visited them too) it a totally different story, rather "big" factory. I can put up to 60 grains into each chamber, though I usually use 40. Thanks. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. The guns worked flawlessly in stock form when I sold them. ASM attempted to revive its percussion revolvers with limited success and finally closed its doors several years back. Something went wrong. For the first 50 rounds the cylinder was very tight and a pain in the butt to fit in and out of the frame, but it is broken in and now I can change it with ease, but Im still not as fast as Clint in Pale rider. Rolling View more auctions here. I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. oops! The conversion cylinders may be purchased only through an FFL, as the change makes the pistol no longer a relic as it fires readily available modern ammo. Stamped on top of octagon barrel "1855 SPAIN". Didn't Colt threaten to sue ASM because of they're use of a "pony" on the grip? Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. It is meat harvesting, pure and simple. Told the gunsmith I did not want a race gun, I just wanted it to work. http://www.1858remington.com, a.k.a. I have a Uberti 1847 Walker. The 1858 Remmy is my favorite gun. .44 Cal percussion. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. SOME PATINA ON 36 Caliber; 80% blue, fair bore, good grips, 505'' barrel, REPRODUCTION 1862 POCKET NAVY REVOLVER. My theory was that the chamber pressure was too high and the percussion cap was pushing the hammer back causing the cylinder to try to rotate while the ball was passing from the cylinder to the forcing cone. They now make a 92 rifles, but it does function better than the old ASM 92's. WOOD 36 Caliber; 75% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Uberti 1851 Navy 6 shot .36 caliber black powder revolover. Someone asked why they are called .44s if they take a .452 or .454 ball. I loaded it to Piettas speck of 15 grains, and the ball didnt make it past the forcing cone. Keep both of these straight, and the possibility that someone (like me, maybe) just might make a mistake, so on your own, do some research on it , At first we never know which is which , but it doesnt take long to figure it out. Parts are still available on a limited basis from VTI. The lead ring around the chamber seems really tight. Grips show some 36 Caliber; 90% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Navy Arms Model 1861 Navy six shot .36 caliber black powder revolver, made by Uberti. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. This may a bit late, but I just got here. This article makes me want to buy more guns! Not Richards Mason, but Richards like Tom Selleck had in "Sabre River". Brass front sight, notched hammer rear sight. Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! Before one can change a cylinder on the Colt Design, the pistol has to be field stripped, and just imagine yourself as a United States Cavalryman, trying to hold his excited horse under control, as he strips the Colt Type revolver down into thee parts, then somehow, (It helps to be ambidextrous & double Jointed!) This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. THE BRIGHT BLUING IS EVEN THROUGHOUT. MARINA MILITARE Mens Sz XXL Brigata Marina San Marco Maroon Red Polo Italy, WWII 1942 US Army Pilot Training Rating Book San Marcos Texas, San Marco Italy Saddle ERA Start Power white color, San Marco Italy Saddle ERA Dynamic Power white & black strap color, (PGUN7) ADVERT 11X8" THE SAN MARCO PEACEMAKER REVOLVER MODEL 1873 ARMY, NOS San Marco Saddle in Blue Metallic Length 22 cm / 8.6 inches, San Marcos Texas Academy Jacket Patch US Army United States Military Vintage, San Marcos Texas Academy Jacket Patch US Army Military JROTC Boarding School, Army DUI DI dui CB clutchback SAN MARCOS BAPTIST ACADEMY JROTC ROTC Japan 1950's, US Army Vintage Patriotic Postcard - San Marcos - Florida, St Augustine FL Florida Castillo de San Marcos Military Army Vtg Postcard R9, Army DUI DI dui Pin Badge SAN MARCOS BAPTIST ACADEMY JROTC ROTC Japan 1950's, US Army Vintage Patriotic Postcard - Castillo de San Marcos - Florida, ITALIAN ARMY MOUNTAIN BOOTS SKI WALKING HIKING SAN MARCO NEW MILITARY SURPLUS, CVA ARMI SAN MARCO Over & Under Left & Right Side Lock (Sear Springs) (New/Old), 1993 Asm armi san marco 1851 44revolver top strap back strap, Asm armi san marco 1858 44 cal barrel #165, Asm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165, ARMI SAN MARCO 1P SAA GRIPS ~ MAGNA-TUSK AGED IVORY, ONE-PIECE ~ ASM, Asm 1851 Navy Trigger Guard And Grip Backstrap, E.M.F. Ive got a friend in the Hill Country who is a maniac on the topic of hunting Bambis mom. The emphasis on having antlers to hang on the wall has led to a ratio of 20 does per buck, which is not a stable gene pool. I use the same 452s in my bps that my wife uses in her .45 acp both 452s with the ring shear it is still .450. The new value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.95) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $286.19 . Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Tops all my Glocks, Berrets, Sigs, ARs, AKs etc. Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Blued finish, plain walnut grips. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. They make the guns for different companies and the workmanship is terrible. This was very helpful, Im thinking about buying one of these pistols and this gave a lot of information about the pistol and the of it. I wasn't there. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. A black powder gun IS NOT considered a fire arm! I had one and stupidly traded it for a nice 1911. WebDescription: Remington Model 1858 New Model Army Revolver, .44 caliber. If you look closely during that scene, you can see the metallic cartridge loading gate cut into the 1858, as well as the metallic cartridges themselves peeking out of the cylinder that Preacher grabs with his left hand. He took the gun back. We raise cattle, same thing. Didn't happen though. THE .44 Spec. And they still shoot just as straight and true as the originals. The Kirst conversion is named after probably the most famous cinematic example of the 1858 Remington rapid cylinder change, the final gunfight from Clint Eastwoods Pale Rider. They make the guns for Chiappa now and the quality is still the worst out of Italy. 1860 Henry Manual. All of the Pietta replicas I have are fantastic, and they were all sourced from the same supplier (see last paragraph). Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I did not grease the shutgun one time and thought to fire it last. And thats part of the beauty of cap-and-ball revolvers; you can vary the powder charge any time you wantlight loads for plinking, and heavy loads for whatever. Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. Price Realized: Details Payment Terms Shipping. Action functions fine., s/n 0181xx. Thanks Dan. The same dimensional differences for width, etc will occur with the triggerguard and backstrap at the frame, but the screw pattern is always right on. This gun was thoroughly rebuilt by Oglesby & Oglesby and is a fine revolver having had the cylinder and hammer re-hardened, and wire springs installed, including the Ruger style coil handspring and plunger. I've heard the stories of ASM's being of poor quality, however these two .45's are very nice. THSS TSRA NRA Life In the beginning, I had a pair of ASM Colt clones. His design has been in constant use since before the Civil War. 1883 Burgess Manual. On clening, dont whatever you do mention water, on a web site run by some guy named John Fuhring. I dont use grease on the cylinder. Fordyce Beals knew what he was doing. WebArmi San Marco Black Powder Revolvers Remington 1858 Army & Navy Parts List Sort by: Show Available 0 Schematic w/ Parts List 1 Barrel 2 Barrel Stud 3 Loading Lever Latch 4 Loading Lever Latch Spring 5 Latch Pin 6 Loading Lever 7 Loading Lever Link Pin 8 Loading Lever Link 9 Plunger 12 Loading Lever Screw 13 Base Pin 14 Cylinder 16 Bolt 17 I shot it again in the side and it stop rolling around. However, I am 99% sure this is an Armi San Marco because my Armi San Marco cylinders cycle, time and lock perfectly in this pistol and Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Black Powder Revolver Manual. I wound up selling it shortly thereafter. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. It is THE most accurate handgun I've ever fired. Then, I took it to a gunhack who buggered the threads. I now buy all of my replicas from one distributor EMF Company. Regulators. Any help would be appreciated. STAINLESS FINISH SHOWS MINISCULE HANDLING WEAR. They refused to talk with the others.